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Super moot: Cannibalism

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Drumming goddess from a Temple of the 64 Yoginis in India
My notes on the talk by Mogg Morton.
There is secrecy in magical orders but not so much in religion. Buddhism, for instance, is the opposite of esoteric – it’s for the people. Although Brahmanism does have a caste system, anyone who has an education has access to esoteric Hinduism; there are no secrets.
Tantra is a culty thing. In 1980 I joined Amookos, the Arcane and Magical Order of the Knights of Shamballa,  a proto-hippy cult run by Dadaji. Dadaji once met Crowley who advised him, don’t bother with O.T.O., just go to India instead. He took his advice and moved there. He died in 1992, acknowledged by the Indian Government.

Amookos traces itself back to fishermen. Founders of magical orders are often from humble backgrounds. The founder of Neo-Platonism was a dockworker in the 7th century.
There are 3 stages of development of Tantra:
1) Early: during the 6th/7th century: Kula-clan or family (not blood relations-you choose your family). They held extremist, in your face, rituals in graveyards involving sex orgies and scarlet women, dalkinis, who spend their time killing babies and drinking blood ‘Kula fluid’. The hero must eat wild meat. He is bribed by the dalkinis offering their sexual fluids. There was a unique recipe for this potion for each clan. Only then can the hero get magical powers.
2) Kaula is a watered down version, more mellow and discreet. Secret societies meet at new or full moon in forests. This can be done internally also (via visualisation).
3) The final internal mentalistic approach to magical tradition was very mainstream. The inventors of Kundalini yoga ‘tantra’. All Hindu practice is Tantric. Eight is a significant number in Hindu tradition.
There is a connection between Egypt and Tantrism,  the East/west tradition, the Typhonian approach to Thelema. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was originally called The society of Eight. Egyptian tradition improvised chaos magick. The Greek orphic ideas sound Indian.

In the Hindu alphabet there are 8 vowels: with them you can construct a mantra. With free-form vowel song, you can make up your own mantra. The 8 vowels represent Yoginis, females that are half human/half spirit. Magick is trafficking with that, not goddesses.
Puja is an offerings ritual. Sex and death are linked in Tantra along with the theme of cannibalism, of wild meat, of human flesh. Crowley talked of Jews eating babies, a blood libel, the ultimate meal you shouldn’t eat. The cake of light has human flesh within it (blood and semen).

Ancient burial ritual involves eating of flesh, of the departed or a relative. Burials often entail kissing or eating near the dead body. In the bible, they eat the flesh of their enemies, drink their blood to make them stronger.
The best blood is the ‘moon monthly’ blood or the placenta. 
Cannibalism doesn’t require anybody to be murdered. 
Tantric sex is controlled by women adepts. It also involves communion with disease entities (which you find in Voodoo). Diseases have special powers; you must make a pact with them. These diseases especially afflict children. Abortion is a good thing. An entity that causes abortion could have uses. Yogini’s are tree or bird goddesses (often water fowl). They are from a folksy tradition and are not elite. These are martial women who are powerful and connected to the flow of blood. Like witches, who are probably their forebears, they possess the ability to fly. Their temples are always isolated and open to the sky. They never practice Yoga. Why? Because they existed before Yoga. 
The Yogini are female but in Tibetan Buddhism it has been translated into yogi, a male.
The incubi and the succubi, the old hag (a secret tradition in Hermeticism) over time have been moderated and turned into metaphors.
Sex in kauli rites is never conventional. It is oral more than penetrative:

“If you want to succeed you must suck seed”. 

The primary mode of transference of knowledge is by fluid transfer, semen, blood. If you want to seduce someone, you must do it through food, feeding by hand. (For example, in India, trainers of elephants feed them a ball of food in the same shape as an embryo.) 

It is not a male dominated tradition but that has been hidden in recent books. ‘Passionate enlightenment’ by Miranda Shaw shows how women have been downplayed. The feminine, Shakti, is often a low-caste woman who has skills. 
The special relationship between humans and the bird kingdom still exists: look at the fear of Avian flu for instance. Birds are seen as carriers of disease. They are also associated with the soul or the self. The stork delivers babies. Water fowls are very important in Egyptian mythology. The swan or the goose can represent the soul also. 
One of the most powerful mantras, (something like) hum sow, means ‘breathing’, means ‘swan’. In Tantra lungs are the wings of a waterfowl. 

They still exist…

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